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webwey
12-04-2003, 07:46 PM
I'm hoping someone can explain an entry in my stats which I have never come across before.
No details of the visitor at all except for the IP address and it said Local Host. I traced the IP address and the only information that came up from it was: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority LOOPBACK
Does anyone know what this is please?
webmoriar
12-04-2003, 09:59 PM
could you put the IP address? I am always up for some investigative work.
webwey
12-05-2003, 09:50 AM
Ok, here we go:
localhost (127.0.0.1)
No referring link and no country given either. I traced it using the Visual Route Server and what I said in the above post is all that came up. It almost looks like it must be me, but I know it is not. This has me most intrigued so any light you can shed on it would be much appreciated :)
127.0.0.1 is the localhost of your computer - you can't traceroute it. It is yourself.
It's possible that we should change the way we are detecting certain IP addresses, we have some ideas on how to change this.
webwey
12-05-2003, 12:56 PM
How could that happen though? I was not online at the time of that entry, the computer wasn't even turned on! It is also nothing like my usual IP address either. If I put my IP address into the Visual Route Server, it still does the trace showing all the hops it takes from that server to my ISP.
~more confused than ever~
martin
12-05-2003, 03:48 PM
I think that someone saved your page to his computer and open it from there. Browser used localhost as the IP, the page was open from.
Martin
webwey
12-05-2003, 06:51 PM
Ahh, that could be it. Thank You Martin :)
I just love it when there is a reasonable and acceptable explanation for the mysteries of the universe :)
DianeBouvier
09-26-2004, 08:31 PM
now i am getting this. i don't understand the explanation about.
would very much appreciate a more elementary explanation.
i do get hits from someone very much covering his tracks and was just assuming this was him again. since a page on the genealogy of greek mythology is not going to attract hackers or paranoids in general i suspect that it is someone i know.
as a matter of fact, i suspect that it is my unix/html teacher, who i told about the page just before this started showing up. and who takes security REALLY seriously.
this guy is coming in thru web.ask, which seems to have just indexed me since i am suddenly getting lots of hits from them. well i think 10 hits is a lot.
this is the drill down on him
VISITOR ANALYSIS
Referring Link http://web.ask.com/redir?bpg=http%3a%2f%2fweb.ask.com%2fweb%3fq%3dGre ek%2bMythology%2bKeres%26o%3d0%26page%3d1&q=Greek Mythology Keres&u=http%3a%2f%2f
Host Name localhost
IP Address 127.0.0.1
Country -
Region -
City -
ISP Loopback
Returning Visits 0
VISITOR SYSTEM SPECS
Browser MSIE 6.0
Operating System Windows 2000
Resolution 1024x768
Javscript Enabled
Navigation Path
Date Time WebPage
24th September 2004 05:57:39 AM www.csulb.edu/~dbouvier/Entities/indexJ.html
web.ask.com/redir?bpg=http%3a%2f%2fweb.ask.com%2fweb%3fq%3dGre ek%2bMythology%2bKeres%26o%3d0%26page%3d1&q=Greek Mythology Keres&u=http%3a%2f%2f
24th September 2004 05:57:57 AM www.csulb.edu/~dbouvier/Entities/indexJ.html
web.ask.com/redir?bpg=http%3a%2f%2fweb.ask.com%2fweb%3fq%3dGre ek%2bMythology%2bKeres%26o%3d0%26page%3d1&q=Greek Mythology Keres&u=http%3a%2f%2f
trackerm
09-27-2004, 03:02 PM
OK I just got one too. And its not from me. It has come from a user who has found my site from a seach engine on a very unusual string.
The magnify user is
Host Name localhost
IP Address 127.0.0.1
Country -
Region -
City -
ISP Loopback
Returning Visits 0
VISITOR SYSTEM SPECS
Browser MSIE 5.5
Operating System Windows NT4.0
Resolution 1024x768
Javscript Enabled
I dont use Win NT, nor MSIE 5.5 as I use XP and MSIE 6
webado
09-27-2004, 03:04 PM
Counter code must have been run off a pc (ip address refers to local machine), not off your web site.
trackerm
09-28-2004, 05:06 AM
What if someone gives their IP address as 127.0.0.1?
Then it will appear to be your own machine. ie ping it and it will hit you.
There are things now to hide your IP addy so you can't be tracked on the net. I dont know the programs, but I have heard they are available.
i would sugest one such program is doing it. Travel round the net and anyone trying to trace you gets a ping in the face.
Is this possable?
mark
DianeBouvier
09-28-2004, 05:54 AM
my unix teacher lectured on these things. that is why i think he is the one doing it.
notice my loopback came from a search engine. not from something cached on a hard drive.
trackerm
09-28-2004, 06:15 AM
that is why i think he is the one doing it.
Not a geeky computer though.. Win 2000. :)
Your right about the search engine... that rules it out from having come from your own computer cache. It rules mine out as I would never use the search string the person used.
I think we will find there is some new freeware/shareware program that paranoid people and naughty people and geeks use to hide their tracks.
Mark
*No geeks were harmed in the writing of this post* :mrgreen:
webado
09-28-2004, 01:29 PM
Ok, I'm referring to my feeble memory of something I think I read earlier in the forum, adn my memory may be playing tricks on me.
See, 127.0.0.1 is an internal IP address of a computer, not the one on the internet at all, as that one is the IP address of the connection provided by the ISP.
I think there was a post somewhere where webmaster said that Statcounter is trying to get one step behind the IP address that is broadcast in case of somebody using a proxy server. It looks like in this case one step behind the IP address of the proxy server it went directly to the visitor's own computer. So this was not a good idea under the circumstances it seems.
But as I said, my memory and/or understanding may be playing tricks on me.
trackerm
09-29-2004, 11:30 AM
Hi Chris,
Put "hide IP" into Google and you will see theres a stack of programs where you can use a fake ip addy or put your own in. Using the local host IP would be done as a joke. Obvious joke, but it has stuffed up all of us. and obviously a common joke :)
Mark plays with Chris' kitten.
Owch!!!!!! damn thing bites!!!!
richroni
09-29-2004, 06:48 PM
Maybe this is too simple an explanation for all instances.
If you don't create a blocking cookie for your own IP, you will get a hit each time you view your own html in you test browser.
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