Advertising Cost

[wyrickj]

How much is it to advertise on Statcounter?

I'd recommend filling out this form.

http://www.statcounter.com/advertise.html

[wyrickj]

Just filled it out. I was wondering though if there was a Profit Sharing model because I am extreamly tight on Advertising cost.

There is no profit sharing model - and we do not engage in affiliate deals I'm afraid.

[wyrickj]

Well I am not offering any affilite stuff anyways. I have not recived an email though after I submited the form. How long does it take to get a reply?

[HellaCooL]

Just so you know, that if the Google PageRank is your concern don't bother.
Google has blocked statcounter.com from transfering PR to other sites.

[spectacularstuff]

Where did you find this out at? I can show you numerous examples of statcounter passing PR forums passing PR.

How do you find out if Google has blocked a website from passing PR?

www.webado.com&num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0]Example (http://www.google.com/search?q=link:
[url]www.webado.com has ALL of its PR from statcounter.
Now According to this chart,
http://www.sitepronews.com/pagerank.html
and the fact that statcounter forums are a PR4 and doubtfully will go any higher without people linking to them
There is an idea guys....put a link to your forum on everyones website. This will increase the forums PR and help out all of us

Christina will need
101 posts to raise her PR to 5
555 posts to raise her PR to 6
3,055 posts to rause her PR to 7
16,803 posts to raise her PR to 8

You had better get cracken Christina... LOL

Now, if everyone reading these posts would put a link on their website to the statcounter forum URL that would essentially increase the PR for all of these posts.

Or even If everyone signed a forum post with their URL and then linked back to that forum post you most certainly get that forums post up in no time to a PR10

We would then get that PR passed back to us......

Something to think about everyone.

Hope it helps.

[webado]

Christina will need
101 posts to raise her PR to 5
555 posts to raise her PR to 6
3,055 posts to rause her PR to 7
16,803 posts to raise her PR to 8

You had better get cracken Christina... LOL


LOL, indeed. I think I shall change my signature to explain my personal concern for PR :lol:

[paulzon]

Despite the fact that the main forum page here has the amazingly high page rank of 9, I only see a rank of "0" for these pages. The figures are very enlightening Wayne, and show the exponential nature page rank, but did you know that it is possible to get a rank of five (and in very rare cases even higher) with just one listing in a directory?! and you don't even need to exchange links! details of how to do this is in one of my other postings. Incidentally for all you "page rank" freaks who dont have a Google toolbar, or don't want to install one, try this!

www.webmasterbrain.com/prog/

regards from Paul www.zonicweb.net

[spectacularstuff]

Yes, I have seen occasions where websites were a PR of 5 and did not trade links... this is because trading links is NOT the only factor taken into consideration however if you read googles explanation about PR they give it to you straight and simple.....

Quote from Google (http://www.google.com/webmasters/4.html)

Google's order of results is automatically determined by more than 100 factors, including our PageRank algorithm. Please check out our "Technology Overview" page for more details. Due to the nature of our business and our interest in protecting the integrity of our search results, this is the only information we make available to the public about our ranking system.



Some of the pages have not been crawled... go into some of the forum pages that were picked up in the link I supplied... you will see a PR4 for everyone of those.... the pages do get crawled... the ones with PR0 have not been crawled yet however I am sure they will be in the near future especially if ones adds them in to be crawled
www.google.com/addurl.html

If you read Googles Explanation of PR and how it works, you will see that a major factor in PR is linking to a webpage

Next Quote from Google (http://www.google.com/corporate/tech.html)

PageRank Technology: PageRank performs an objective measurement of the importance of web pages by solving an equation of more than 500 million variables and 2 billion terms. Instead of counting direct links, PageRank interprets a link from Page A to Page B as a vote for Page B by Page A. PageRank then assesses a page's importance by the number of votes it receives.

PageRank also considers the importance of each page that casts a vote, as votes from some pages are considered to have greater value, thus giving the linked page greater value. Important pages receive a higher PageRank and appear at the top of the search results. Google's technology uses the collective intelligence of the web to determine a page's importance. There is no human involvement or manipulation of results, which is why users have come to trust Google as a source of objective information untainted by paid placement.


Hope it helps

[spectacularstuff]

LOL, indeed. I think I shall change my signature to explain my personal concern for PR
_________________
Christina
PR? What PR? Don't care about any PR :LOL:



HA HA HA HA
I know that.... however your website IS the perfect example for those of us that do care about PR.

[webado]

LOL, indeed. I think I shall change my signature to explain my personal concern for PR
_________________
Christina
PR? What PR? Don't care about any PR :LOL:



HA HA HA HA
I know that.... however your website IS the perfect example for those of us that do care about PR.
Perfect? as in "things to avoid at all costs?" :lol:

Ok, I'm doing web stuff as a hobby and as a service to a community of artists (songwriters) who've got even less ability than myself to deal with this, plus a non-profit organization for teens with talents in the performing arts.

I'm not actively engaged in any form of optimization nor do I try overly hard to make my sites work with all sorts of OS's and browsers. That's for 2 reasons which are (not necessarily in this order): lack of sufficient knowledge and lack of sufficient motivation.

Correctenss of information, ease of retrieval and reasonable ease of navigation are my primary concerns. My current concern is to improve load times (by lowering bandwidth demand) for some of my web pages since I have learnt of a few things I'm doing wrong in relation to images. Spam avoidance is also high on my priority list.

Since I don't sell anything, nor do the sites I manage sell anything, this works fine for all involved. I can understand those that have something to sell will flip over backwards to accomplish the ultimate optimization and compatibility. Hey, it makes for great entertainment value to watch this from the sidelines :lol:

[paulzon]

You're dead right Wayne, they do say that, and their algo does some devilishly complicated calculations regarding amounts of links, the page rank of the linking sites etc, but the clue is in the "more than a hundred factors" bit, one of these is a huge "weighting" factor for sites which are listed in the "Open Directory" which supplies the results for the Google directory. Obviously if you get a main page link from say, Yahoo (or even Statcounter!) this will give you high rank from just one link as well, because their main pages are all 9's, 10's etc, and the credit that they give you will be of an exponential order.

regards from Paul www.zonicweb.net

[spectacularstuff]

Yes, I do agree with the Dmoz and Yahoo....
I believe this is because of the PR, not because of some special importance.....

Now, this has not been tested but I believe that a PR10 is a PR10 is a PR10 is a PR10..... at the time of writing this it does not matter where that PR10 is or what the page is about as long as it links to you.

Google is working on more relevancy so if your link is on a page that is relevant content there will be some update mroe than likely it will be a dividend of points that are passed via the PR.

If you take a look at that PR chart.... if 1 link from a PR10 to you presuming 0.85 points from the PR passed to you and presuming not more than 50 links inbound and outbound per page then your website will automatically get a PR8 or a high PR7

Now, we can test this is statcounter would like to sell me a link on their homepage... :wink:

I have just discovered a tool already made that I was trying to write.... a tool that allows you to search backlinks and reports what PR those backlinks are for any website. That I like. Now they need to come out with a tool that automatically spiders out the webmaster or link exchange e-mail or automatically fills and sends the form for you at the click of a button... lol

[spectacularstuff]

My current concern is to improve load times (by lowering bandwidth demand) for some of my web pages since I have learnt of a few things I'm doing wrong in relation to images. Spam avoidance is also high on my priority list.


If you are concerned about load time, learn CSS... you can make your whole website in CSS and your loadtime will be phenomenally fast. Also if you need any help optimizing your images fo the Internet... just send them over to me.... I will optimize them and get them back to you...

:)


I'm not actively engaged in any form of optimization nor do I try overly hard to make my sites work with all sorts of OS's and browsers. That's for 2 reasons which are (not necessarily in this order): lack of sufficient knowledge and lack of sufficient motivation.


That is the exact reason why your website is such a fantasitic example... it is proof that PR IS passed from the statcounter forums, google does read the statcounter forums, and will find your links placed here...... As you continue to help people here, not caring about PR you are inadvertantly raising your PR... even though you don't care that is an awesome discovery....

Another example of this is Statcounter..... The reason that statcounter has a PR10 is because everyone has a link to statcounter on their website and there are tens of thousands of users here. Again, referring back to that chart,

You have a website that has 1000 pages. Statcounters link is on everyone of those pages, they are getting that PR passed to them and at a higher percentage because chances are that on most of those pages they are the only outgoing link. The rest of us are lost in a pile of link trades.....

what a phenomenal concept!

Hey guys, can you work my link in your code..... it doesn't have to show up in the foreground.... :lol:
Hope it helps

[paulzon]

Christina,
Although you are totally unconcerned about "page rank" and the like, you may nevertheless be pleased to know that good, "honest" sites like your own, which encapsulate some of the old spirit of the web, frequently do better in this than ultra commercial sites where webmasters have utilized every trick in the book. Honesty IS rewarded sometimes nowadays, and perhaps this accounts for some of your "4"!

regards from Paul www.zonicweb.net

[paulzon]

and yeah, CSS is GREAT! (and easy too!)

Paul www.zonicweb.net

[spectacularstuff]

Ahhh Here is what I was looking for..... For any of the newbies out there... Right on Googles Website (http://www.google.com/technology/index.html)


PageRank Explained

PageRank relies on the uniquely democratic nature of the web by using its vast link structure as an indicator of an individual page's value. In essence, Google interprets a link from page A to page B as a vote, by page A, for page B. But, Google looks at more than the sheer volume of votes, or links a page receives; it also analyzes the page that casts the vote. Votes cast by pages that are themselves "important" weigh more heavily and help to make other pages "important."

Important, high-quality sites receive a higher PageRank, which Google remembers each time it conducts a search. Of course, important pages mean nothing to you if they don't match your query. So, Google combines PageRank with sophisticated text-matching techniques to find pages that are both important and relevant to your search. Google goes far beyond the number of times a term appears on a page and examines all aspects of the page's content (and the content of the pages linking to it) to determine if it's a good match for your query.

[webado]

if you need any help optimizing your images fo the Internet... just send them over to me.... I will optimize them and get them back to you...

Actually I was thinking of creating smaller versions of the images and putting those up rather than reducing their apparent size through height and width specifications in the img tag. But thanks annyway :)

As for CSS - well, that's for another lesson. I have some of that but I constantly override that with inline specs (which I can relate to more easily on the fly :)) so that's counterproductive I should think. I generally use SSI for whatever is common across pages.

As for my PR, it could well be the Satcounter forum, but it will also have to be the numerous other forums where, being the busybody that I am, I post profusely :)

Check me out, if you like, on http://www.myacen.com/forums/ (as chrisooc) and http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/ (as ChristinaS) as the forums in which I am most active lately. www.webproworld.com was actually the forum that initially pulled me up, but I haven't posted there in a while.

[webmoriar]

Another example of this is Statcounter..... The reason that statcounter has a PR10 is because everyone has a link to statcounter on their website and there are tens of thousands of users here.

I don't know the exact number but I know it is over 100,000. x number of projects = A lot.

[paulzon]

as the forums in which I am most active lately. www.webproworld.com was actually the forum that initially pulled me up, but I haven't posted there in a while.

You've cracked it Christina ... that's the one that is giving you page rank!

Paul www.zonicweb.net

[webado]

as the forums in which I am most active lately. www.webproworld.com was actually the forum that initially pulled me up, but I haven't posted there in a while.

You've cracked it Christina ... that's the one that is giving you page rank!

Paul www.zonicweb.net
Well, anybody can sign up there, if you're prepared to be made minced meat out of :lol:

I'm related to armadilos, so that's not a problem :lol:

[webmoriar]

if you need any help optimizing your images fo the Internet... just send them over to me.... I will optimize them and get them back to you...

Actually I was thinking of creating smaller versions of the images and putting those up rather than reducing their apparent size through height and width specifications in the img tag. But thanks annyway :)


I'm pretty sure Wayne meant optimizing them by size as opposed to shrinking their actual size. Unless of course you talked to him by some means other then the forums.

[paulzon]

I'm related to armadilos, so that's not a problem :lol:
I know you are! ... :wink:
Paul www.zonicweb.net

[auctionhugh]

Incidentally for all you "page rank" freaks who dont have a Google toolbar, or don't want to install one, try this! www.webmasterbrain.com/prog/

So cool, thanks for that link!

did you know that it is possible to get a rank of five (and in very rare cases even higher) with just one listing in a directory?! and you don't even need to exchange links! details of how to do this is in one of my other postings.

I haven't read through the whole thread, but if you have not already, would you be kind enough to add a link to that post?

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Click to visit Kallen Web Design (http://www.kallenweb.com/kalamazoo_web_design.html)
http://www.kallenweb.com/kalamazoo_web_design.gif (http://www.kallenweb.com/kalamazoo_web_design.html)

[webado]

if you need any help optimizing your images fo the Internet... just send them over to me.... I will optimize them and get them back to you...

Actually I was thinking of creating smaller versions of the images and putting those up rather than reducing their apparent size through height and width specifications in the img tag. But thanks annyway :)


I'm pretty sure Wayne meant optimizing them by size as opposed to shrinking their actual size. Unless of course you talked to him by some means other then the forums.
Currently I am displaying smaller images which you click on and get the full image. But the smaller image I am showing is really the same photo, displayed small, so overall it's slow to load when there may be 10 or so such images on a page. I figured I could make smaller versions of those images to display outright on the page and keep the full size ones for display through clicking. None are really huge (around 30-50K), but still, they add up. They could be shrunk to 3-5 K each as some kind of thumbnails. I am not displaying 1MB photos anywhere, that's for sure :)

I'm just being a bit lazy in making the thumbnails, that's all.

[paulzon]

Christina ... did you know that you can get JPEG/ GIF "crunchers" that will reduce your filesizes, and automated "thumbnail" generators too?

Hugh ... try submitting your site to www.dmoz.org ... can't promise that it will be listed though!

regards from Paulwww.zonicweb.net

[auctionhugh]

Hugh ... try submitting your site to www.dmoz.org ... can't promise that it will be listed though!

Thanks, did that several weeks ago and I can see an editor came to review my site (thanks to StatCounter's came from data!!!!). Hopefully something good will come of that!

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Click to visit Kallen Web Design (http://www.kallenweb.com/kalamazoo_web_design.html)
http://www.kallenweb.com/kalamazoo_web_design.gif (http://www.kallenweb.com/kalamazoo_web_design.html)

[webado]

Christina ... did you know that you can get JPEG/ GIF "crunchers" that will reduce your filesizes, and automated "thumbnail" generators too?

Hugh ... try submitting your site to www.dmoz.org ... can't promise that it will be listed though!

regards from Paulwww.zonicweb.net
Oh, I've heard of stuff like that and I probably even have downloaded some. Just never used it yet, I do it the old-fashioned way - by hand in photoed. I even have a photo gallery package (Coppermine) installed on one web site and it does create thumbnails - but I don't like the rest of it enough to use it for my needs everywhere. Hmmm... maybe just let it create the thumbnails for me.... and use those outside the gallery.

I'm going to have to do something soon though, because I have a couple of hundred photos from my vacation I want to upload and make available for viewing (maybe not all of them, but a lot of them anyway). The gallery may be good for this finally.

[paulzon]

Regarding all that stuff about page rank here a debate which concerns both the Open Directory AND Statcounter regarding page rank.

http://www.seo-guy.com/forum/showthread.php?t=887

Wayne, you may find it interesting ... the essence of it is this bit ...
on being listed in DMOZ "it helps, but it doesn't have some sort of dramatic influence over your PR.
the thing about dmoz is, the data is copied over to dozens and dozens of other sites.
getting into dmoz is essentially like getting a free link from every one of those pages- eventually. it may take a while for them all to update.
but none of those listings are more powerful than what you'd get on different pages with the same PR.

He's right ... the DMOZ directory listing goes straight to the Google directory, goes straight to lots of other different places ... which all generate page rank for you ... the "weighting" I was writing of is the fact that DMOZ IS the Google directory. I wish that I had explained myself more clearly earlier!

regards from Paul www.zonicweb.net

[graham35]

Christina
With reference to thumbnails try Easy thumbnails www.fookes.com its free and a breeze to use
Also www.irfanview.com also free and easy to use and offers alot of other useful tools.
With Easy thumbnails, you can just right click on a photo (open with) and click on the Easy thumbnail option and it will make your photo into a thumbnail to what ever size you set the software setting at, or you can do it by batch, either way it leaves your original photo intact (original size)and adds the thumbnail to the same folder as the original.
Good luck

[webado]

Christina
With reference to thumbnails try Easy thumbnails www.fookes.com its free and a breeze to use
Also www.irfanview.com also free and easy to use and offers alot of other useful tools.
With Easy thumbnails, you can just right click on a photo (open with) and click on the Easy thumbnail option and it will make your photo into a thumbnail to what ever size you set the software setting at, or you can do it by batch, either way it leaves your original photo intact (original size)and adds the thumbnail to the same folder as the original.
Good luck

Ooh, thanks a bunch Graham!

[spectacularstuff]

WOW! This one has been busy


okay

Christina,
I was talking about taking your 30-40KB image, not physically reducing the size but reducing the kilobytes all the while keeping the integrity of the image.

I use three different programs when needed and I get the images to the lowest size possible. We have huge images on our website that fill the screen from top to bottom and they are only 15-20kb and we have over sized thumbnails on each product page that are 7kb a piece and they still look great. All of our bars ont he website are less than 1 kilobyte. I even optimize and spacer.gif's lol


Paul,

Yes, I know about the connection with DMOZ. They go all over the place, however if you are already listed in those places without DMOZ then they only thing that is left is PR and the Google Directory of course.

Stephen,

Over 100,00 WOW!


Everyone,

Submitting the website to DMOZ. Yes, this is a pain the the wazoo however here is some websites that makes it a lot easier to get listed in DMOZ
DMOZ Instructions (http://dmoz.org/add.html)
Dummies Guide to DMOZ (http://www.dummies-guide-to-dmoz.org/we_are_not_google.htm)
Find out why your website is not listed yet in DMOZ (http://resource-zone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=396)


And yet again, I stress, we should have a dedicated group about websites.


Paul, Christina,

Here is a list of the following webpages that Google KNOWS about to pass page rank to www.webado.com

Where in this list do you see www.webproworld.com?

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Hope it helps

[webado]

Wayne, I know for a fact that before my Statcounter forum posts starting showing in Google up it was Webproworld forum posts that dominated - and just about the time they started showing up in links to my site in Google, my PR went to 4 from 3 where it had been for a long time, with no back links showing in Google at all. I have been idle there lately, so that has fallen by the wayside I suppose.

You also see dbpoweramp inching its way up, this is also because i'm active there a lot. Somewhere in the list you should also see Myacen forums, as I have reached the 1000 post mark there. I don't know what their bot policy is, I used to see the Google bots there a lot - but not so much lately. Maybe they are blocking the bots now, I don't know.

The thing is not all sites on the www get spidered every time, that would be impossible to achieve in a 24-hour window. I think a complete spidering cycle may take a month or so - but that's more a guess based on a vague recollection. So all this ranking stuff will oscillate like crazy between spidering cycles.

[webado]

Wayne, concerning my image files, they are not that huge in terms of file size, though they fill a screen usually. They may be about 20-50k. The fact that instead of thumbnails I am showing the same picture files reduced by the img parameters however makes the pages a bit sluggish. I will be getting onto that soon. Promise :)

[webmoriar]

WOW! This one has been busy


okay

Christina,
I was talking about taking your 30-40KB image, not physically reducing the size but reducing the kilobytes all the while keeping the integrity of the image.

I use three different programs when needed and I get the images to the lowest size possible. We have huge images on our website that fill the screen from top to bottom and they are only 15-20kb and we have over sized thumbnails on each product page that are 7kb a piece and they still look great. All of our bars ont he website are less than 1 kilobyte. I even optimize and spacer.gif's lol


What programs do you use? Currently I just use Photoshop to compress images.

[spectacularstuff]

Christina, reducing the size of the image via the parameters doesn't reduce the kilobytes of it...... it only reduces the physical size of it.

IE. An AOL Phone line proxy downloads realistically at 3KB/Sec average.

If 1 image on your website is 50KB then it will take that person 16.3 seconds to download that image

Let's say that image was 100px X 100px
Just because you set the height and width requirements to 50px X 50px... the image is still 50KB and will still take 16.3 seconds to download that image. The only way to reduce that is to optimize the image which brings me over to Stephen.

The main 2 programs which usually take care of the job for me is
of course Photoshop CS. The best damn optimizer I have found out there yet. If someone has something better and has actively tested photoshop... I would live a link.

The next that I throw the images into is www.netmechanic.com
http://www.netmechanic.com/GIFBot/optimize-graphic.htm

Usually I do not need to optimize more than those.

Hope it Helps

[webado]

LOL, Wayne! This is what I've been saying all along too (if only you'd read my whole post .... ;)).

Ok, so now you know that I know just about everything there is to know about picture file sizes, display size vs physical size, etc. How the img tag doesn't change the physical size of the file on disk , etc, etc...... I KNOW ALL THAT! LOL! I simply haven't applied what I know YET. Now, then! Are you satisfied?

Can we move on please :lol:

[spectacularstuff]

okay, if you need help let me know.... :lol:

[webado]

okay, if you need help let me know.... :lol:
Got a cure for laziness? :lol:

[spectacularstuff]

Yeah, but I cannot put it in these forums.... :roll: :P :D

[webado]

And a good thing too .....

FYI I've created thumbnails for all the photos on one web site (over 100 of them). Almost all references to those images are now through those thumbnails :)

Thanks to Graham's suggestion of Easy Thumbnail, this is indeed a breeze.

[paulzon]

Wayne,
Yup, you have a point! I did a little test of my own, and a very small proportion of the these forum pages are ranked "4", although most are "0". Google is very "hit and miss" with dynamic pages as due to the huge amount of pages it crawls, it tends to ration itself on these, so results can be erratic sometimes. However, despite the fact that my tests were more general, and not centered around Christina, I did extrapolate one thing, that Google seems to have a particular fondness for Christina's posts! some of your post's were listed too Wayne, but only when Christina was there too! she was represented even more than the webmaster who has made over a thousand posts! does this mean that Christina has an admirer who goes by the name of G.Oogle? :wink:

Regarding your comments about the difficulties of being listed in DMOZ. I can answer this in a few lines ... DMOZ is run mostly by volunteers, and there is a big shortage of them, you may find the section that is suitable for your site, submit it, and it may sit there for years because that section has no editor! ... then you try submitting to another section that has a named editor at the bottom, he/she decides that the site is not suitable for that section, so they either boot it back to the original one which has no editors and it stews again, or they simply delete it! ... then again you may be lucky, submit it once, and it is listed within days! It also has to be a "quality" site too, without loads of pop ups garish colourschemes, not too much affiliate advertising etc.

regards from Paul www.zonicweb.net

[webado]

...I did extrapolate one thing, that Google seems to have a particular fondness for Christina's posts! some of your post's were listed too Wayne, but only when Christina was there too! she was represented even more than the webmaster who has made over a thousand posts! does this mean that Christina has an admirer who goes by the name of G.Oogle? :wink:

Oh, how sweet! Google likes me! I think I'll just cry! :lol:

[spectacularstuff]

It sounds to me like Christina has an admirer... someone abviously submits her forums posts to google manually.

www.google.com/addurl.html

Now, on the next update,


I have quality websites that are still not listed in DMOZ..... you have to wait a month before your last submission to DMOZ before you can post and ask them to look at your website as to why it is not in there.

All of the sections I submit to have an active editor. It got to the point that I just look at my chart as to where DMOZ goes out to and the places that I can get into manually I just submit to those manually. There are a couple of places that you cannot get into without being in DMOZ.....

If you submit the URL to Google, Google will walk it and rank that website accordingly..... Chances are if statcounter was to put a link to one of those forum post pages from their homepage that would increase the PR for that page.

Now, you have to wait until Google Dances every 6-8 weeks before you see that update and if you did not submit to them that page or they did not find you through other links then you have to wait until the following update before you will see the change.

I always submit every page that links to me, even if the PR is a 0... chances are that Google just has not ranked that page yet unelss the website has a very horrible linking infrastructure. Most of the Links Manager links pages out there have a very horrible linking infrastructure so you will notice as they get deeper in the pages, their PR gets lower
http://www.20topcasinos.com/links/links.htm for example.
Go into Busines and Economy, scroll down to the bottom and click the next button..... You will see the PR drop on those pages... this is due to the lack of a good solid linking infrastructure. On other websites where you can get to every page from every other page, then you will see that all of their links pages have the same PR.

I have to take off.... time to go work on my tan....running off to the beach.... Christina, you should take another trip and come down and see me and go to the beach with me.... come on... you can make it in a day :lol:

[webado]

It sounds to me like Christina has an admirer... someone abviously submits her forums posts to google manually.
....
I have to take off.... time to go work on my tan....running off to the beach.... Christina, you should take another trip and come down and see me and go to the beach with me.... come on... you can make it in a day :lol:
So you're the one who's been submitting my posts to Google? No wonder you had hundreds of pages to submit places :lol:

Gee, thanks for the beach invitation, but I'm mortally afraid of jelly fish and sharks :lol:

[spectacularstuff]

Good Guess alas, an incorrect one.... I would not bother submitting all of your posts to Google, I would submit All of Christina's posts (http://forum.statcounter.com/phpBB2/search.php?search_author=chrisooc) and all of All of Wayne's posts (http://forum.statcounter.com/phpBB2/search.php?search_author=spectacularstuff), 2 (http://forum.statcounter.com/phpBB2/search.php?search_id=304561279&start=40), 3 (http://forum.statcounter.com/phpBB2/search.php?search_id=304561279&start=80)

Again, it was not me....
I cannot take credit for that.

[webmoriar]

*intrigued*