View Full Version : IP or Cookie Block
blakemiller
09-20-2004, 01:49 PM
I want to NOT track my own visits. I am connected to internet via COX Cable Internet, through a Wireless Cable/DSL Router. Therefore, my "local" IP address is 198.168.1.100, while Statcounter.com and other "What is my IP" address, is logging it as XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX - totally different.
Question is, is XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX the IP for Cox.net? Is it all of Cox, or is it Cox.West, or is it more local, like my own neighborhood.
I just want to block myself, not all of Cox.net nor anyone else besides me - so should I just the cookie feature, or IP Blocking?
webado
09-20-2004, 01:57 PM
You can use the IP address as displayed by services like www.whatsmyip.net or else use a blocking cookie.
With the IP address block you will also block any other pc that shares your particular internet connection (like if you have a home network sharing one internet connection). You will not be blocking your whole neighbourhood nor all of that ISP's users.
However if your IP address changes at times, this is not really a good way to block - since you'll be blocking somebody else while your own visits won't be blocked. The blocking cookie is then better - until your cookies get deleted and then you have to create a blocking cookie again.
motorwatchercounter
09-20-2004, 03:01 PM
I also have this problem. Mine is because I have a dynamic IP. My hosting is with BT (The UK's largest telecoms company) and although I run broadband I still only get the dynamic option unless I want to pay more. I have entered a few of the IP addresses in the blocking facitity but can't be bothered any more. I can usually tell if it is me and have learnt to live with this. I also find that all AOL traffic shows as coming from the USA although the drill downs show that they mostly originate from the UK. I supose that they all bounce to the USA and then bounce back. The cookie option works but I alway's clear my cookies etc. It is about time that cookies, temp files and history were an option in IE. They were useful when the internet ran on steam but tie up space on my pc I could be using for other things. I could happily not worry about returning visitor stats. For people like me who get rid of cookies I would show as a new visitor to a site anyway.
:shock:
blakemiller
09-20-2004, 03:25 PM
However if your IP address changes at times, this is not really a good way to block - since you'll be blocking somebody else while your own visits won't be blocked.
I guess this is a better question/point. When does the IP address change? Every time I re-boot, or just at Random w/ Cox? I don't re-boot often, every couple of days. I guess I could test this, but to actually learn it or hear it would be better.
webado
09-20-2004, 03:34 PM
However if your IP address changes at times, this is not really a good way to block - since you'll be blocking somebody else while your own visits won't be blocked.
I guess this is a better question/point. When does the IP address change? Every time I re-boot, or just at Random w/ Cox? I don't re-boot often, every couple of days. I guess I could test this, but to actually learn it or hear it would be better.
It all depends on your ISP. If you have a modem that is always connected, if it gets reset, the IP address will change for sure. But your ISP can be changing the address on you at any time, and none of it has anything to to with rebooting.
Check your IP address with www.whatsmyip.net every so often.
motorwatchercounter
09-20-2004, 06:32 PM
I do not use the always on function of broadband but connect when I want. Interesting question is if people posting are using the 100 hit records for free or have upgraded. There is always the question of hits over time.
:shock:
robinev
09-20-2004, 07:50 PM
You're seeing two different IP addresses because you're using a router. Your public IP address (the one that shows up in StatCounter) is assigned to the router and not to your PC.
The 192* address is a private IP number that is never used on the internet, but is used to identify machines in a private network. Your router assigns that private address to your PC so that it can handle requests.
10* addresses and some 172* addresses are also private IP numbers.
blakemiller
09-21-2004, 03:22 PM
Got it, thanks for the replies.
One more though, how do you find out what the IP address is for a particular website, and is that going to be static enough (permanently?) to block it in IP Blocking?
Reason, cuz i post alot to another BB Forum, with my webiste known & published (we all review our own websites and such), and already noticing getting alot of hits from it, soon enough, it's going to totally muck up my results. (It would be the same scenario if I put my website in my signature and all of you were to start clicking on it.)
Anything I can do w/ this?
webado
09-21-2004, 03:32 PM
Got it, thanks for the replies.
One more though, how do you find out what the IP address is for a particular website, and is that going to be static enough (permanently?) to block it in IP Blocking?
Reason, cuz i post alot to another BB Forum, with my webiste known & published (we all review our own websites and such), and already noticing getting alot of hits from it, soon enough, it's going to totally muck up my results. (It would be the same scenario if I put my website in my signature and all of you were to start clicking on it.)
Anything I can do w/ this?
The IP address of a web site is of no consequence to you, since it is the IP of the server hosting the web site. What the counter tracks is the IP address of the individual visitor, i.e. the ip address of the internet connection used to surf the web.
What you're actually trying to do is prevent logging from a certain referrer. There's nothing in Statcounter right now for that.
If indeed you want to have the IP address of the web site, you can attempt to use the ping command in command mode (Start > run> cmd which takes you out to the dos prompt and type in: ping www.whateverdomain.com ). Some web hosting servers do not respond to ping so you may hit a brick wall at some point. You can also use www.dnsreport.com to find lots of information on a domain & web site, including IP address of server hosting it.
blakemiller
09-21-2004, 03:39 PM
That's what I was afraid of. Thanks for the help, While I'm pretty okay at designing web pages, I'm still learning about basic internet & network stuff. Feel kind of stupid, like i should know the chicken before the egg, or is the egg before the chicken ... ya see :shock:
Again, being ignorant here, couldn't statcounter include "Block "came from"" addresses? I mean, you're able to report "came from" on each log, so it would be nice if you could configure to also filter these too, as well as individual machines.
webado
09-21-2004, 03:59 PM
That's what I was afraid of. Thanks for the help, While I'm pretty okay at designing web pages, I'm still learning about basic internet & network stuff. Feel kind of stupid, like i should know the chicken before the egg, or is the egg before the chicken ... ya see :shock:
Again, being ignorant here, couldn't statcounter include "Block "came from"" addresses? I mean, you're able to report "came from" on each log, so it would be nice if you could configure to also filter these too, as well as individual machines.
Programming-wise it certianly could be done, but it could slow everything down more I'm afraid. Maybe they'll want to do this in the Advanced tracker, certainly in a paid up version. It would almost be easier to implement it on the web pages themselves, but you need some knowledge of javascript or php in addition to pretty good html, in order to direct the logic flow.
blakemiller
09-22-2004, 07:09 PM
Programming-wise it certianly could be done, but it could slow everything down more I'm afraid. Maybe they'll want to do this in the Advanced tracker, certainly in a paid up version. It would almost be easier to implement it on the web pages themselves, but you need some knowledge of javascript or php in addition to pretty good html, in order to direct the logic flow.
I would certainly love to see it, and pay for it too. I just upgraded my account, as my free 100 log filled after 3 days, and 1/2 of the visits were from the other boards I frequent. I'm tempted to remove my WWW link and signature to prevent this, but in the other boards, we're all always helping each other out and I constantly "show" my web page for example and such.
I dunno, it seems pretty straight forward to me . . . .
If <referring link> = www.BlockThisDomain.com/*
Then DON'T LOG
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I know, it's not that easy, but logically, it seems it should be.
Webmaster... any thoughts?
trackerm
10-02-2004, 03:25 AM
1/2 of the visits were from the other boards I frequent. I'm tempted to remove my WWW link and signature to prevent this, but in the other boards, we're all always helping each other out and I constantly "show" my web page for example and such.
I agree. Thats why I don't show mine, unless its targeted.
I only get average 10 hits per day, but each one is vital. So its important to know where/how they are coming from. Though it must seem rude not to give it on this forum.
100 log is perfect for me… but I use another trick too, my .index page is on one project and my other pages on another project. This extends my free 100 giving 10 days stats on the .index. The only drawback seems to be visitor length stats as the length divides between the 2 projects.
On the whole keeping my clicks down is extremely important (the reverse of most sites!). If I send an email looking for a job I can see if the receiver has clicked on my website and see how deep they have gone. That’s like gold in my game :)
Mark
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