For Google Eyes Only - To Webmasters

[DSL Guy]

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[Arne]

Does Google see the very top level and crawl all the rest.
Short answer: Yes

Or will Google see my last 50 submissions as spam?
Short answer: Yes, probably

Longer answers: Google crawl from one site to next, from one page on a site to the next, with the help of the links it find. That's one big reason Google givs high ranks to sites that are linked to from many other (preferable also high ranked) sites. If you have links from the "portal" page (or whatever you like to call it) on www.domain.com to all sublevel "portals" (e.g. www.domain.com/sub/index.html) Google will crawl from the portal page to the sublevel portal page.

Submitting every (50? or more?) sublevels may hurt you. I have never submitted any site to Google and still Google have find them on the top 20 list when people search with matching keewords. Many times even with words I don't remember having on any page. :-)

I suggest that you use cross linking within your domain. Links from every sublevel to other sublevels makes a lot of links to crawl and Google will find them. Visitors who find one sublevel, will also find links to other sublevels of interest. Submit the toplevel to Google if you like, but Google want index it any faster than it can find it by it self.

[Proteus]

In my case I only submitted my main url to google, and this is what google has of my website currently:

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&newwindow=1&q=+site%3Awww.the-pinata-maker.com+&btnG=Search

and I've never submitted my site to yahoo, and this is what yahoo has of my site:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=www.the-pinata-maker.com&ei=UTF-8&xargs=0&pstart=1&fr=fp-pull-web-t&dups=1

Which is good because I save my time and let the spiders make their work...
and I don't have an external link to my site...

my secret?... strategies, only strategies instead of tricks...
:wink:

[hdtvtechno]

and this is what google found for your site

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&sa=G&q=%22%2Bwww.dslexperts.net%22

[webado]

LOL! I'd be really worried if search engines didn't find a site in the #1 position when searched by the exact complete domain name! :lol:

[hdtvtechno]

just a suggestion, to DSL Guy

by putting some more meta tags in the html source code.

like

<meta name="distribution" content="Global">

<meta name="audience" content="all">

may also help with google. :)

[Arne]

Getting hits on Google with the exact complete domain name in the search box is essential. But with all respect, if I know the URL I don't need to search for it :-)

Therefore what really counts is if I can find the site with the keywords I use to search for a service and/or information I'm looking for. Have you tried to search your own sites with the keywords you use in the meta tags? Have you checked the Keyword Analysis in your stats? What keywords is used when visitors come to your site from Google or other search engines?

I can see that somebody search for e.g. "built with css" (without the quotation marks) and get hits where my site in #1 and #2 among all 3 320 hits :-)

I tried to search for http://hdtvtechno.netfirms.com with the keyword "HDTV" as it was listed in the keyword meta tag. Among 4 730 000 hits I don't find http://hdtvtechno.netfirms.com within the first 100 (10 pages) I seldomly search more pages.

When searching for "pinata maker" (with the quotation marks) I had better luck. A search with same keywords without the quotation marks I find a link to the site on the second page, as part of a description for a site that links to the-pinata-maker.com, so thats good also. But searching with only "pinata" don't give any hits for the site within the first 100 (10 pages).

[hdtvtechno]

here are my recent Keyword Analysis in my stats


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Yahoo north carolina ota dtv
Google allsatlink hd7000
Google hi def local channels on air
Google panasonic hdtv-stb
MSN directv tnt hd
Google usa network going hdtv
Google hdtv stations
Google staten island hdtv
Yahoo comcast fox hd
Google lg hd6000 price
Google pvr dvi
Google o&o hdtv feeds
Google comcast cable.tv listings california|(bay.area)
Yahoo over-the-air hdtv turner
Google cablevision dvi
Google dtv walmart
Google hdtv schedule and cablevision
Google hd-6000 mitsubishi msrp
Google adelphia hd lineup 2005
Google hdtv broadcast southwest florida
Google motorola bmc 9000
Google motorola dct 5100
Google fox world series hdtv 2004 florida
Google directv hdtv news
Google directv local channels hdtv
Google hdtv locations atlanta broadcast
Google discovery wings on expressvu
Google lg hd6000
Yahoo sunshine network in hd
Google videotron ppv service channel lineup
Google hdtv starchoice 401
Google 3250hd availability rogers
Yahoo 1080i stations
Google integra hd-7000
Google scientific atlanta explorer 3100 adelphia
Google hdtv stb

[Proteus]

But searching with only "pinata" don't give any hits for the site within the first 100 (10 pages).

The reason is simple: I didn't intend to target that keyword by itself... :wink:

[webado]

Of course, you can't expect really to come up #1 or even in the top 100 with one word alone, unless it's both unique and the first thing that comes to mind to anybody searching and there are few other sites responding to this.

Just having a unique keyword won't help either if nobody thinks of searching for it.

I guess what you can try is to increase the common keyword density within reason on your site. Not so much that it will be annoying and obvious though.