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johnjoemorgan
08-01-2005, 07:42 PM
The recent Yahoo log change just delisted 99% of my site - left me with only the Table of Contents and an old redirect page. Over the last week a few pages have reappeared but way down the lsit
With Google and MSN I'm still 1st page for my main products.
Anyone cast any light on Yahoo's changes. Any advice on SEO changes for the new Yahoio would be welcome
Cheers
John Joe
donecweb
08-01-2005, 08:11 PM
The recent Yahoo log change just delisted 99% of my site - left me with only the Table of Contents and an old redirect page. Over the last week a few pages have reappeared but way down the lsit
With Google and MSN I'm still 1st page for my main products.
Anyone cast any light on Yahoo's changes. Any advice on SEO changes for the new Yahoio would be welcome
Cheers
John Joe
You don't give enough information to even consider the problem. There are many reasons why a search engine may drop a site permanently or temporarily such as doing something the search engine is against or the search engine may just be doing maintenance and the effect is temporary.
If you want real help with a situation or want to help someone else you need to get in the habit of providing Links and accurate information. This is a pet peeve of mine and is why I have the statement in my signature of "Links and accurate information provide the best answer, while garbage in provides garbage out."
johnjoemorgan
08-01-2005, 09:36 PM
Well - Gee Weez - Sorry to have upset ya kalma matey!
And one of my pet peeves???? People like YOU who don't read posts
"Anyone cast any light on Yahoo's changes. Any advice on SEO changes for the new Yahoio would be welcome"
Meaning that I ain't looking for specifics or analysis of my site - just comments from people who may have been effected poistively or negitively by Yahoo's recent Weather Report
My Signature?
"These's always an arse for every opinion"
webado
08-01-2005, 09:59 PM
Chill out gentlemen, please. You are both right in your own ways.
Sometimes problems may happen for specific rasons, such as errors or a site. This when a link is helpful. Also seeing the site allows other so search and apply various tools to see the situation.
Your question is valid too as in whether there are specific events that may explain an otherwise unexplained dip in listings.
hiwayracer
08-01-2005, 10:10 PM
Smells like alot of male testostarone in the air here so let me join in.
How about giving us the address of the site before i cast judgment upon you all?
i stand to be corrected but is this not your site www.militaryplaques.com
and what keywords were u using?
hiwayracer
08-01-2005, 10:16 PM
if that was the site yahoo still lists your pages, check for yourself
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=site%3Amilitaryplaques.com
Like i said depends on the keywords and if the bots liked you.
And it is possible to burn a site in a SE if one uses bad SEO tactics, though some search engines favor certain tactics. Example: link from guestbooks yahoo loves as msn os okay with them but google barely considers them.
johnjoemorgan
08-02-2005, 02:20 AM
All,
Apologies if my initial reply was a bit "gung ho" but we all have short fuses when it comes to certain people.
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Hiwayracer - yes, that's the site. There's a one more relevent reason I tend not to mention my site on this site and other non-military sites - it has no relavancy to my site and non-relevent inbound links at the most do no good and at worst penalise you.
My query - though now a maybe moot point - is "We know Yahoo's log went thru a change - how's this effected people's rankings" Although all my pages are well "indexed" when you do a site query with Yahoo, only one page, The ToC, appears in the results
My keywords are dependent on the page, and I have varying key word densities and relevent text again dependent on the page - Check "military desk nameplate" on the 3 majors. Apart from normal updates and such nothing major happened on the site before, during or after the Yahoo log change.
I read a lot of the discussions on this and no one I've read has been able to put a finger on why Yahoo drops certain pages.
Cheers
John Joe
jonra01
08-02-2005, 02:29 AM
I've been following this post and just did some checking on yahoo. I don't see the problem. A search on site:www.militaryplaques.com returns 47 of your pages. A search on military desk plaque puts you at number 5. Is there something I'm missing?
johnjoemorgan
08-02-2005, 02:38 AM
John,
yes - 47 pages are listed, but if you do an actual search 90% of the results only return 1 page - the ToC. All those other pages have disappeared off the SE results pages. If I'd been sandboxed surely all the pages would dissappear from the results?
Cheers
John Joe
donecweb
08-02-2005, 03:32 AM
Well - Gee Weez - Sorry to have upset ya kalma matey!
And one of my pet peeves???? People like YOU who don't read posts
"Anyone cast any light on Yahoo's changes. Any advice on SEO changes for the new Yahoio would be welcome"
Meaning that I ain't looking for specifics or analysis of my site - just comments from people who may have been effected poistively or negitively by Yahoo's recent Weather Report
My Signature?
"These's always an arse for every opinion"
I believe I was misunderstood. I was not upset or complaining or bothered by what you said and I am still not. I made the statement about my pet peeve only to explain my line in my signature and to point it out as a way of suggesting links should be used if detailed information is desired. If only general information is wanted then the post seemed way to broad and could have been answered in almost any fashion. I did read the post and have read it again and it is still my useless opinion that the post is too broad to receive a informative response. It also was not my intention to be negative but rather I was trying to be helpful. 8)
PS IMHO calling names or being personally negative provides no useful information and helps no one.
jonra01
08-02-2005, 04:58 AM
John,
yes - 47 pages are listed, but if you do an actual search 90% of the results only return 1 page - the ToC. All those other pages have disappeared off the SE results pages. If I'd been sandboxed surely all the pages would dissappear from the results?
Cheers
John Joe
That's typical of most serps. They might return a different page based on the search terms, but most times they will return the same page for the more generic terms on a site.
When you say Yahoo has de-indexed your site you imply that your pages are no longer in their database.
One thing you should keep in mind is that Yahoo supposedly has much more human editing with their search engine than the other engines. Maybe, one of their people reviewed your site and made some changes.
johnjoemorgan
08-02-2005, 06:41 AM
John,
Yep - I see what you're saying. But if that's the case, and they're trying to help me/searchers out by streamlining the search results I can't say I like the results! A 90% decrease in traffic from Yahoo since the log change
I've resibmitted to Yahoo/Yahoo Directory in the hope that the site will be Slurped in a new light but I'm loathed to make changes as the Google and MSN results are steadily growing stronger.
Any one else seen changes in Yahoo?
Cheers
John Joe
webit
08-02-2005, 08:38 AM
Chill out gentlemen, please. You are both right in your own ways.
A moderator in action, the way of the calm. :D
jonra01
08-02-2005, 01:38 PM
Any one else seen changes in Yahoo?
No changes for my sites. Just ran a couple of searches on one of my sites and it came up as expected.
johnjoemorgan
08-02-2005, 02:45 PM
John,
This is my point - the change in Yahoo will bring about changes in rankings. That's OK - one would hope that thiose changes are for the better. That is more informative results and less spam and scrapper sites.
Now, I seem to be in the (vocal) minority but for my "regualar" key phrases Yahoo has downgraded my site and promoted "dental plaque" spam sites. In the same periiod Google, MSN, AOL, Dogpile, Alltheweb etc etc (well everyone apart from the puritanical DMOZ) have remained stable.
I'll wait 1 more week to see how it pans out then I'll start to revive [metatag noindex,follow] pages with strict Yahoo SEO and see what happens
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Me Webit - I signed up!
jonra01
08-02-2005, 05:19 PM
Now, I seem to be in the (vocal) minority but for my "regualar" key phrases Yahoo has downgraded my site and promoted "dental plaque" spam sites. In the same periiod Google, MSN, AOL, Dogpile, Alltheweb etc etc (well everyone apart from the puritanical DMOZ) have remained stable.
I did notice one change in Yahoo - my resume page is now #10 for web developer resume in Yahoo. That's a nice improvement. It hovers around #30 in google, although my most recent search found it at #41. That's the lowest it's been since I put it up there.
One thing about search engines, watching them on a daily basis is like weighing yourself every day when you are on a diet. The results will fluctuate from day to day. As for the other engines staying the same, that's to be expected. They all use different algorithms and schedules for updates - as I'm sure you are aware.
johnjoemorgan
08-03-2005, 02:49 PM
John,
Thought you may find this amusing - "The Secret of getting #1 and #2 in Yahoo"
Use Old Redirects and ToC's ! ;-)
Yahoo Search = air+force+desk+nameplate
Cheers
John Joe
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