bug in Came From and Keywords when landing

[greatrental]

Hi -
I had been having discussions with Chris but now have more information.

My Paths tracking if working fine but everyone coming to my site from google etc is now not working for the Came From or Recent Came From which are both showing BLANK!!

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So - as an experiment, I googled some keywords so that I could click on my site link as a referral to a NON-home page:

Here is what Visitor Paths showed:
New Jersey, Mt. Laurel, United States, 2 returning visits

Date Time WebPage
November 6th 2006 01:43:00 PM http://www.greatrentalkeystone.com/K...ation-SEO.html
No referring link
November 6th 2006 01:43:13 PM www.greatrentalkeystone.com/rates.html
http://www.greatrentalkeystone.com/K...ation-SEO.html
November 6th 2006 01:43:21 PM www.greatrentalkeystone.com/
www.greatrentalkeystone.com/rates.html
November 6th 2006 01:45:23 PM http://www.greatrentalkeystone.com/d...ons.html#arial
www.greatrentalkeystone.com/
November 6th 2006 01:45:30 PM www.greatrentalkeystone.com/
www.greatrentalkeystone.com/directions.html


NOTICE the no-referring link when i went from the Keystone_condo_rental_... to my home page? WHY?

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New experiement: google keyword to create referral to my home page.

Here is what Visitor Paths shows:
c-24-4-55-142.hsd1.ca.comcast.net (Comcast Cable Communications)

California, Antioch, United States, 4 returning visits

Date Time WebPage
November 6th 2006 01:22:04 PM
No referring link
November 6th 2006 01:27:31 PM
No referring link
November 6th 2006 01:27:33 PM
No referring link
November 6th 2006 01:55:01 PM
No referring link
November 6th 2006 01:55:05 PM
No referring link


NOTICE that non of my internal site browsing was now recorded?


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In both cases, despite referring to my site from Google search, No INFORMATION shows up in the Came From, ENTRY page, or any Search /Keyword stats.

WHY WHY WHY WHY???
Your help would be so kind.

Guy

[westmoors]

Just looked at your page. The home page seems to have lots of blank space at the bottom. Towards the end I did see 'Code corrupted. Insert fresh copy.' This often happens when there are coding errors on the page so I ran your page throught the w3 validator and it was unable to validate it as you have no doctype declared.

May I suggest you try to clean up your code and then if you're still having troubles with statcounter, post again.

[greatrental]

You caught me between fast edits.
Yes there is some blank space at the bottom of my home page, But, the code / counter for statcounter is working. It is tracking my vistis fine.

I still am getting non-referring link or visitor paths that are occurring from the outside world and NEed to know what pages are executing the script such that my log is catching the event? Would also love to know where they are coming from besides the ISP.

Guy

[webado]

To understand anything you must look at the log - Recent pageloads. That's the defiinitive authority, unflitered by anything.

Anytime a visitor comes to your site from somwhere where the link to your site opens as a pop-up window (i.e by javascript) that hit will not have a referrer.

That's in addition to visitors blocking referrers in their browsers and firewalls settings.

[greatrental]

Chris -
Thank you for your continued help.

I understand what you are saying BUT... for the majority of this huge uptick in volume:
1. Under page loads there is missing information besides the Direct Referrer
2. Under Visitor Paths there is missing information

If you our I were to manually type in the home page www.greatrentalkeystone.com, I would see "no referring link" but also see what page was entered etc.
LIKE:
Nov 8 07:03:43 PM MSIE 6.0 Windows XP unknown United States (76.16.193.54)
www.greatrentalkeystone.com/specials.html
www.greatrentalkeystone.com/
Nov 8 07:03:43 PM MSIE 6.0 Windows XP unknown United States (76.16.193.54)
www.greatrentalkeystone.com/
No referring link


HOWEVER - Most of my new pageloads have ZERO information besides the ISP host, and the "no referring link".

LIke:
Nov 8 07:02:32 PM MSIE 6.0 Windows XP unknown United States cpe-76-169-164-18.socal.res.rr.com (76.169.164.1
blank
No referring link
Nov 8 07:02:30 PM MSIE 6.0 Windows XP unknown United States cpe-76-169-164-18.socal.res.rr.com (76.169.164.1
blank
No referring link


THIS IS MY PROBLEM - what are these page loads that isn't even registering what page url (the address line between the referring link and the ISP address) got loaded to show up as a page load in the first place??????
There are tons of them??????

Guy

[webado]

Javascript disabled visitors - very likely robots.

That's why I say look at Recent Pageloads for those entries - you'll see if javscripy is disabled right away.

No url gets logged when javascript is disabled at all. Not page visited, not referrer - nothing.

[greatrental]

Chris-
From my web host, I know that <50 robots have visited my site this month.
Yet I have >1000 page loads per day now where there is no information.

AGain, this all started happening on Oct 25 - up until then it was fine. It appears that they are from all sorts of hosts. Besides page loads, by looking at Visitor Paths, they do navigate around the site a bit - I just have no clue what pages are getting loaded.

It doesn't make sense does it that this phenomenon just started Oct 25? Up until then these mysterious visitors were not getting logged by Stat Counter??

SO - is there a way for Stat Counter to stop logging these java dis-abled visitors if that is your theory? ALso - if the visitor has java disabled, how then is Statcounter even registering that they visited if it took the script itself to create the the 'footprint' and log the page load????

Guy

[webado]

You can see in recent pageloads for each hit if it was javascript disabled.

Javascript disabled visitors get logged through the <noscript> ....</noscript> segment of the tracking code. You can remove it if you don't want to see them. it doesn't' mean your site is not being visited by those user agents, only that you won't know it from Statcounter.

The robots getting logged through that code are image enabled - otherwise they would not get detected at all. Google Images runs such a robots. Yahoo also (inktomi).

Your site may have been found by various robots. It doesn't' have to be robots from the big search engines, it could be any robots, for any purposes, including site rippers and email harvesting spambots. ISP's run robots also in order to build up their server caches so they speed up future requests from their own clients for instance. If the hits are fast they are from a bot.

Of course human visitors also can run their browser javascript disabled for security reasons. Except they wouldn't be quite that fast.

[StevenofNine]

Just in case you care, FF2.0 cacks up your page. Can't speak to 1.5 or non IE browsers, but, obviously:

The mouse-over text on the image at top left is displayed, under the image, in FF2.0, and overlaps other page elements in the top left corner.

Viewers on any browser not maximised have the same image cover the text when the page width is shrunk.

The page width is fine in IE, but in FF2.0 the page wants to be far wider than 1024 screen resolution.

Just in case you cared...

[greatrental]

I'll check out FF - thanks for letting me know. It has been a while since I checked it on FF.

I knew about mouse-over but accepted it back then.

Guy