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Old 02-06-2007, 02:32 PM
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I have been browsing some of the 'came froms' in my logs and have come across a situation I had not anticipated when designing my web pages. I can't see any solution to the problem (without completely changing the way my site works) but I thought I'd share it just in case one of you very clever people have a suggestion.

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgur...397&w=600&sz=4

I'm wondering how many visitors get a picture they weren't looking for and quit to try the next item in the serps. Quite a few I would wager.
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Old 02-06-2007, 02:56 PM
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Remember the Google Images urls shown in your Statcounter log are not complete - the url stored is 150 characters maximum and they are typically longer than that, so you aren't seeing the full url. What you are missing might hold the answer.
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:09 PM
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Ah, I hadn't realised that. So is there any way I can get the full url, like from awstats maybe?
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:13 PM
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More likely from your server logs, before awstats has tinkered with them.

Can't say that I've tried to look into that before, but it might be there somewhere, hopefully not also truncated.
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:19 PM
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Yup ... here it is (or a similar one at least). I pasted this into my address bar and gives the same result as the truncated version.

h**p://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.jwjonline.net/images/muckrosshouse.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.jwjonline.net/pencil.php&h=397&w=600&sz=44&hl=en&start=53&tbnid= bpwN8YwLyikmTM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhouse%2Bdrawings%26start%3D40%26ndsp% 3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:40 PM
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Ok, the n, sorry, what is your question actually?

I guess you want to know what keywords were used? It looks like the informaiton isn't available since the way Google images works appears to who the image thumbnail as result of the search by keywords and show the page in a frame. You'd only have your page's url to go by not what was used to find the thumbnail. Or so I think.

What I mean is that the search was performed on Google's own data (the thumbnails) and the keywords are not part of the query string for the subsequen retrieval of the page - the page url itself is the "keyword" for what you get.
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:54 PM
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No, I'm not concerned about the keywords. All I was doing was showing that someone found my muchkrosshouse picture in google, but when they clicked on the link it took them to a different picture altogether. It's a consequence of my dynamic pages and I was tossing it into the forum in case any one knew of a way of avoiding it. I don't.
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:58 PM
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Oh I think it's because the first instance where the term was found is as the alt text of a thumbnail on your other pages so it comes out from there.

The thumbnail shown is correct after all.

Or... I have no clue

Your page which shows the actual full size image has tis own url so it should have been indexed as well.

Hmmm.... would have to look at how that motor that drives your pages works.
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:28 PM
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The situation is worse than I'd thought. Doing a search in Live Search for "Muckross House" (images) brings up quite a lot. Scrolling down a very long way eventually brings you to the image of my two dogs as shown in the footer of my site (except the homepage). Clicking on the image of my dogs takes you to my Muckross House sketch. Very confusing ... and not at all helpful for search traffic.

I need to do some serious thinking about these dynamic pages.
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:32 PM
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I don't know how easy would be to do this, but here's what I think.

Your "motor" script pencil.php ought to have a robots meta tag as "noindex,follow". Then individual image pages ought to have "index,follow" for that same meta tag.

Is that doable under your structure?
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