google.com referrer keywords not showing

[cloudoffshore]

Excellent, now we've got two people who're completely clueless - always nice to see people I'll never have to compete with

Either way, its a moot point - if people want to optimise for keywords then they're going to do it. So they need a stat package that provides that...

It seems I have conflicting answers anyway - a stat counter staff member is saying I've installed the code wrong or there is another error... a moderator is saying yes Google is hiding the info from stat counter. So which is it?

[bobby131313]

I wouldn't say clueless, I get a Google referral on average every 6 to 8 seconds... 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

[cloudoffshore]

Thats lovely for you.

Anyway back on topic... which of the conflicting replies from Statcounter staff / moderator is the correct one?

[bobby131313]

Let me Google that for you.

[cloudoffshore]

Great forum you have here, with pedantic replies like that from moderators.

I understand what encrypted searches are. I understand how they affect keyword data being passed to 3rd parties.

Here is my simple question:

Are google allowing the search data to pass to Google analytics but not other companies who provide the exact same service?


Staff member says no... moderator says yes.... who is talking nonsense and who's talking sense?

[bobby131313]

My moderator status has zero to do with my opinions or attitude. I do not work for statcounter.

Now your just being silly and deliberately argumentative. Your last post actually made me laugh out loud.

You say....

I understand what encrypted searches are. I understand how they affect keyword data being passed to 3rd parties.

After stating that emphatically you ask...

Are google allowing the search data to pass to Google analytics but not other companies who provide the exact same service?

Sounds like you're the one talking nonsense. Either you understand it or you don't.

[cloudoffshore]

I understand what they are. I'm not party to any agreement that Google have between themselves and Statcounter etc... which is why I'm asking here.

Google clearly have access to the data themselves - they could also clearly pass it to Statcounter if they chose to do so.

It looks to me that Statcounter don't have access to the data but Google are letting it pass to their own Analytics... but the reply from the Statcounter staff member above would suggest otherwise. Maybe thats just the company reply to stop paying customers leaving, I've no idea.

Anyway its all a bit pointless as I've closed my paid account, and I'll be logging out of this forum account now so feel free to post what you like from here in, I won't be replying. Thanks for your time

[rotarysteve]

Originally Posted by cloudoffshore

I understand what encrypted searches are. I understand how they affect keyword data being passed to 3rd parties.

Here is my simple question:

Are google allowing the search data to pass to Google analytics but not other companies who provide the exact same service?


Staff member says no... moderator says yes.... who is talking nonsense and who's talking sense?

At no time has a moderator or staff member stated specifically that your code is corrupt. It is up to you to check this possibility, I'm assuming it's o.k.

Would or is Google allowing data pass on to their analytics and hiding it from competing analytic services? Why not as it would really benefit Google Analytics. Could Google block referrer information from the rest of the world, Of Course!! Google can use what ever analogy to explain this, privacy issues-or simply they just simply wish to further there No.#1 position in the world.

Currently, I have no problem with referrer information from Google hits, which could lean me back to saying, check your code and make sure it is current. Statcounter will be more than happy to help you with that. Statcounter is only an additional tool that is invaluable to monitoring your web sites traffic.

Originally Posted by webado

You'll get less and less of referrers from google since they've implemented the use of https for logged in users, and there's no referrer information being passes - either to Statcounter, nor even to your own server logs.

I think that the above sums it up pretty well as Google is constantly in a position to stay No.#1 in the world.

[webado]

Google Analytics doesn't show referrers either when the visitors come from a Google search via https (which is always the case when they are logged in).

Nothing can show that information in such a case, not even your server logs.
Nothing to do with hiding the IP. The IP cannot be hidden - although if you use an anonymizer proxy the IP is that of the proxy. But the usage of https means there is no referrer passed.

Only Google Webmaster Tools shows general stats on keywords (but not actually full search queries) and some average ranking, and of course no tracking information.

[rotarysteve]

Originally Posted by gamezone

Its also not even relevant to the question I asked either... if people want to do this then they need the stats to be able to do it. If stat counter can't provide them then you're losing paying customers.

Now isn't this odd, the above is post #30 of this thread just made 7/20 at 11:09pm, and the below is post #19 of this thread made 7/11 at 12:30pm. Hmmmmm....

Originally Posted by cloudoffshore

Not true at all.

Its also not even relevant to the question I asked either... if people want to do this then they need the stats to be able to do it. If stat counter can't provide them then you're losing paying customers.